#36 - Halloween 2021

On today’s episode, Annie’s traveling so I’m hosting the show solo. And one of the main ideas that we’ve talked about in our off-air conversations is the role of women in society and how there are a lot of women in science that have played massive roles in changes throughout history. We both feel like this is an important topic and who better to start things off than our moms. This time around, I interview my mom, [Judy Gobert](https://www.facebook.com/judy.gobert). She’s a biochemist, a microbiologist, an activist, a mom, and a grandmother. We talk about what inspired her to become a scientist and some of the projects she’s done; the challenges she’s faced growing up and the role her abusive stepfather played in the path she took; and we also talk about her outlook on Indigenous women, science, and where people can look for their own inspiration moving forward. Here are some of the important messages I got from this interview: - Judy’s love for science began with her love for math - Being an Indigenous woman is hard, but full of lessons - Change within a system is messy – get your degree and then work toward change - How listening to Creator guided her as a scientist - Indigenous knowledge systems have known things that Western knowledge systems are just beginning to recognize… Indigenous Science does not need validation from Western Science - Biocolonialism and the dangers of “science out of control” - The power of women - inclusiveness is an essential human value - The importance of language ~ Resources: [#MeToo](https://metoomvmt.org/) [American Indian Science and Engineering Society (AISES)](http://www.aises.org/) [Indigenous People's Council on Biocolonialism](http://www.ipcb.org/) ~ [Like this show? Leave us a review here](https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ndn-science-show/id1377936061?mt=2)... even one sentence helps! And if you leave your Twitter handle ...

On today’s show, we took a bit of a different approach to our conversation. Both of us chose a topic within this overarching idea of Indigenous Environmental Issues. This is an important area to explore because our connection to the natural world is inseparable. Unlike the broad topic of being Indigenous in the modern world, this episode is more specific. We discuss oil transportation along the BNSF Railroad and the implications that spills have on the people, landscape, and watershed in western Montana. We also relate the reasons for why this is so significant to Indigenous communities by looking at two documents as examples of ways current approaches are highly colonized, but also for ways we can move forward with environmental issues in general. Some of the main ideas we talk about are: - The Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railway: How much oil is transported, Implications for the watershed, How this can affect all people - The Rights of Mother Earth: The Universal Declaration on the Rights of Mother Earth, The United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People - Government Documents at Different Levels - Grassroots Change through Personal Change - The Power of Your Vote ~ Links and Resources: [Oil and Water Don't Mix YouTube Video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4tSdxZplCo&t=156s) [Understanding Oil Spills In Freshwater Environments](http://https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2018-01/documents/ospguide99.pdf) [Middle Fork Flathead River: Treat: Oil Transport by Rail](http://https://www.americanrivers.org/endangered-rivers/middle-fork-flathead-river-mt/) [United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People](http://http://www.un.org/esa/socdev/unpfii/documents/DRIPS_en.pdf) [The Universal Declaration of the Rights of Mother Earth](http://https://pwccc.wordpress.com/programa/) [The Law of Mother Earth: Behind Bolivia's Historic Bill](http://therightsofnature.org/bolivia-law-of-mother-earth/) ~ [Like this show? Leave us a review here](https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ndn-science-show/id1377936061?mt=2)... even one sentence helps! And if you leave your Twitter handle we'll be sure to thank you personally! You can also [Support the Show on PayPal](https://www.paypal.me/ndnscienceshow) [NDN Science Show Wordpress Page](http://www.ndnscienceshow.wordpress.com) ~ ...

We're back! And to get back in the groove, we decided to do another episode on the topic of Being Indigenous in the Modern World (#BIMW). This is a big topic and we bounce around to different topics a lot, but that's a part of why it's so fun to record these episodes. Enjoy! Here are some of the main ideas we talk about: - IndigiFact about How Cats Land on Their Feet - Updates on why we took a month off - What makes this topic so broad/wide-reaching - Sustainable/Renewable/Clean/Green Energy - Some Ideas to Be Indigenous in the Modern World ~ Links & Resources: How do cats land on their feet? Links: [1](https://askdruniverse.wsu.edu/2016/10/31/how-do-cats-land-on-their-feet/), [2](https://books.google.com/books?id=ydXthgZlOoAC&pg=PA1647&lpg=PA1647&dq=new+scientist+how+does+a+cat+fall+on+its+feet&source=bl&ots=K21KpLXzmK&sig=jUstXdslRUrfFoQqGGq6AhHnIVU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj1-4HPvYXQAhUP2GMKHdHLCUQQ6AEILDAC#v=onepage&q=new%20scientist%20how%20does%20a%20cat%20fall%20on%20its%20feet&f=false), [3](https://www.scu.edu/illuminate/thought-leaders/phil-kesten/why-do-cats-always-land-on-their-feet.html), [4](https://www.wonderopolis.org/wonder/How-Do-Cats-Always-Land-on-All-Four-Feet) Do toilets spin the opposite direction in the Southern Hemisphere? Links: [1](https://www.abebooks.com/9780321633668/Cosmic-Perspective-6th-Edition-Jeffrey-0321633660/plp), [2](https://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/mysteries/coriolis.html) Are cats good mousers? Links: [1](https://www.ontariowildliferemoval.ca/are-cats-a-reliable-mice-control-solution/), [2](https://www.automatictrap.com/blogs/news/5-animals-used-for-rodent-solutions), [3](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fevo.2018.00146/full) [Ecological complexity, fuzzy logic, and holism in indigenous knowledge](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0016328708001092) Jaden Smith's [Water Filter](https://www.aquafinance.com/resource-center/news-articles/jaden-smith-brings-portable-water-filtration-system-to-flint-mi/) & [Food Truck](https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2019/07/09/jaden-smith-opens-free-vegan-food-truck-for-homeless/1681140001/) [Zealandia](https://earthsky.org/earth/lost-continent-zealandia-drilling-expedition-2017) ~ [Like this show? Leave us a review on iTunes](https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ndn-science-show/id1377936061?mt=2)... even one sentence helps! And if you leave your Twitter handle we'll be sure to thank you personally! You can also [Support the Show on PayPal](https://www.paypal.me/ndnscienceshow) [NDN Science Show Wordpress Page](https://ndnscienceshow.wordpress.com/) ~ ...